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Fri Jun 19, 2009, 1:18 AM
Today's dialogue is about client(freelance client/officeboss/superiors/editors/etc) - us(designers/illustrators/mangaka,etc)relationship. This post is inspired by the newly debate..errr.. or should I say a dissatisfaction report turns into a big rage from our dear artistic community started by Bayou.

read his story first
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So...The clients, who are they? What have they done to you that make you crazy? Why are you sticking to them, nonetheless all the pressure they put into you?

A love-hate relationship I must say.

OK, here's one of my weirdest/strangest conversation I have had with a client that sent me into sleepless nights of thinking and thinking and thinking..and as a 3rd party, you may judge does it worth to be crazy because of this client?

(in a meeting after a previous request of sample character design for children story books, cartoon style design of a rabbit was instructed in the request)
Me : Here it is...
Client : ........... not quite what we're looking for..we need ..ummm... This doesn't look like a rabbit at all! .......
Me : ......................

I got turned down for that project. And I was silent after his remark. I said nothing. I didn't do any defenses, because I thought what good it would be? I was wondering, if my rabbit (similar to my [link]) doesn't look like a real rabbit, then does Mickey look like a real mouse? What the heck is Goofy, then? I KNOW it doesn't look like a real rabbit, I MADE it that way intentionally!! You requested cartoon style, remember?

So,

from my experience and Bayou's, what lessons have you learned? What's your opinion? Am I a big cry baby who refuses to introspect and train myself more, or have clients been evolving into some kind of lunatic drunk and I didn't realize it?

Share your thoughts and experience! I want to hear from international friends too! What happened there? Is it the same?

* thank you Bayou for giving me the courage to bring this topic up. I was afraid for some time. You are the Che of our world!! Viva la revolution!

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:iconpegahoul:
We need to make sure the clients understand what we do, our limitations, our choices and why.

And of course we need to understand what our clients want too. REMEMBER that not all clients familiar with the terms, styles, requirements in the world of art, so it's our job to explain it to them.

My experience, I was trying to submit a manga with half anime half cartoon style (think Kingdom Hearts) and at editor first criticize me because my anatomy was wrong (!)

Of course I knew what happened there, and explain to him in detail what I want. He understood and just suggest that realistic style is better or more marketable. Now I don't agree with that but I understand his reason so I just cancel my submission without problem.

Other experience is a client who forced me to do 3 character arts in one night when I have a full time job(!!)

So I carefully made sure she understood that I may not be able to finish it on time, and even if I can, it won't be as good as my other portfolios. AND she will still have to pay for the finished art(s) if I got it finished.

She agreed, and turned out, I managed to finish all of them. The result wasn't good, but as I've already warned her, she kept her promise.

So that's from me. Just be truthful, be patience, use nice words, make sure you and them reach an understanding. Ask for example of what they want and show them what you can do or if you can't do it.

Can't share tips if they don't wanna understand though... I'm not that lucky... yet ^^

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:iconbrilcrist:
i'm not a real artist nor mangaka but if i deal with that kind of person, sure i wanna kill him/her~

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:iconbabalisme:
You're pretty lucky there with the later client. Understanding is a big word here. But yes, you have got the point there, if you can reason with him/her, just decline the project (yup, won't be a problem). After all you can't reason/explain all the time through the entire project, can you?
:iconbabalisme:
Have you got all the "dream" client, kun? Pay on time,few revisions along the way, and accept you for who you are?

And keep your pencil as sharp as possible, fellow artists! We might need it to er... give some clients a lesson or two :D :D :D :D
:iconbrilcrist:
not at all, almost all my clients are bunch of morons, if not because of that money matter, i wont do that kind of jokes~

my pencil? sure, it's so sharp~ it can thorn a flesh~

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